High S&P 500 P/E ratios (22–23) are historically associated with flat or negative 10-year real returns.
The case
Ray Dalio predicts the current market will not be a good investment over the next 3 to 10 years.
“It won't be good to for the next I couldn't tell you whether it's going to be 3 years or 10 years, but it won't be a good investment.”Ray Dalio · 17 Jul 2026
The AI investment bubble will burst within the next few years.
“The next few days, the next few weeks, the next few months, but certainly the next few years.”Jeremy Grantham · 25 Jun 2026
Buying the S&P 500 at a P/E of 22 (current valuation) produces negative 10-year returns.
“If you buy the S&P at this current valuation, the 10-year returns negative when you buy with the S&P of 22.”Paul Tudor Jones · 28 Apr 2026
When the S&P 500's P/E ratio was 23, annualized returns over the next 10 years were between +2% and -2% with no exceptions.
“If you bought the S&P when the P/E ratio was 23 in every case there were no exceptions. In every case, your annualized return over the next 10 years was between two and minus two.”Howard Marks · 25 Mar 2026
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Signal Headquarters · compiled from attributed public discussion. Last updated 2026-07-17.